The first Vayse interview of 2026 is with someone that Hine and Buckley have wanted to interview for years, it's none other than Charlie Claire Burgess! As an author and artist working at the intersection of spirituality and queerness, Charlie has written two of the most original and powerful spiritual books of the decade, Radical Tarot and Queer Devotion and has created the Fifth Spirit Tarot Deck, the Gay Marseille Tarot deck and has a third deck, the Aquarius Rising Oracle Deck in the works.

Charlie was super generous with their time and ideas, talking about how tarot was their rebellion against a conservative religious upbringing, how their attempt at conforming with societal norms and expectations left them searching for more and how discovering the way in which their magic and queerness is intertwined led them to finding themselves, others like them and a new direction in life.

The conversation also wanders through Charlie's process in creating the Fifth Spirit Tarot, the importance of self-expression, individuality and authenticity, the magick which can arise from embracing chaos and uncertainty... and why it's always a good time to embrace your inner-teen-goth... (Recorded 15 January 2026)

Charlie's Links

Queer Devotion by Charlie Claire Burgess
Radical Tarot by Charlie Claire Burgess
Fifth Spirit Tarot
The Gay Marseille Tarot
The Aquarius Rising Oracle
Charlie's Website
Charlie's Instagram
Charlie's Bluesky
Charlie's Substack

Charlie's Origin Story

The Craft - Wikipedia
The Craft Trailer - Youtube
Buffy The Vampire Slayer - Wikipedia
Rider Waite Smith Tarot - Wikipedia
Wicca - Wikipedia
Shamanism - Wikipedia
Drawing Down the Moon: Witches, Druids, Goddess-Worshippers, and Other Pagans in America by Margot Adler - Good Reads
Spiral Dance by Star Hawk - Good Reads

Radical Tarot

Fifth Spirit Tarot Images
TransActual
Advocates for Trans Equality
Glossary of Must-Know Sexual Identity Terms by Daniella Amato - VeryWellMind.com
How to Navigate Your Own Privilege by Akeem Marsh, MD - VeryWellMind.com
Learning How to Fall, Or, How Getting Relentlessly Thrown on My Ass Helped Me Learn to Love the Wheel by Charlie Claire Burgess - WordWitch.com
Why we're so terrified of the unknown by David Robson - BBC
The Word Witch Podcast

Queer Devotion

Neoliberalism - Wikipedia
Nationalism - Wikipedia
Individualism - Wikipedia
Community - Wikipedia
‘Everything you’ve been told is a lie!’ Inside the wellness-to-fascism pipeline by James Ball - The Guardian
How the world loved the swastika - until Hitler stole it by Mukti Jain Campion - BBC News
Cancel Culture - Wikipedia
The dark side of wellness: the overlap between spiritual thinking and far-right conspiracies by Eva Wiseman - the Guardian
Neil Gaiman: accuser files civil lawsuit alleging rape, sexual assault and human trafficking by Sian Cain - the Guardian
JK Rowling says loved ones ‘begged’ her to keep trans views to herself by Ellie Muir - the Independant
Sappho - Wikipedia
Hymn to Aphrodite by Sappho - Translated from Ancient Greek by Katie Byford - Modern Poetry in Translation
A Guide to Being a Trans Ally - LGBT Foundation
10 Ways to Be An LGBTQ+ Ally - BBC
Tarot for Hope by Charlie Claire Burgess
Persecution of transgender people under the second Trump administration - Wikipedia
Anti-transgender legislation accelerates in early 2026 by Alexandra Martinez - Prism

Charlie's Recommendations

Hades - Wikipedia
Orphic Hymns - Wikipedia
Confessions of the Fox by Jordy Rosenberg - Good Reads
Jordy Rosenberg's Website

Vayse online

Website
Twitter
Bluesky
Instagram
Bandcamp (Music From Vayse)
Ko-Fi
Email: vayseinfo@gmail.com

Special Guest: Charlie Claire Burgess.