After a 3 month break, Vayse returns for an interview with a person who inspired the podcast before it was even a podcast - writer, podcaster and psychodynamic psychotherapeutic counsellor, Duncan Barford. Duncan's book Occult Experiments in the Home was a major influence on Hine and Buckley's views on magick and mysticism but for this interview they zero in on aspects of his career as a therapist, focusing on mental health and how this can affect and be affected by the occult and occult practices: Why do so many prominent figures in magick seem to have mental health issues or addictions? Where do you draw the line between mystical experience and mental health disorder? How do you maintain a magical practice when your mental health isn't good? Is it safe to have a magical practice at all? and most importantly... what kind of deep-seated psychological damage is preventing Hine from remembering the name of Duncan's new book? (Recorded 12 June 2024).

Thanks to Duncan for his time and patience and thanks as always to Keith for the show notes, you can give him a follow at: @peakflow.bsky.social

Duncan Barford Online

Duncan Barford: Psychodynamic Psychotherapeutic Counsellor - website
Occult Experiments in the Home (OEITH) website
OEITH on Twitter/X
OEITH on Patreon

(Some of) Duncan’s Books and Podcasts

Occult Experiments in the Home: Personal Explorations of Magick and the Paranormal by Duncan Barford - Goodreads
The Magick of A Dark Song: The Abramelin Ritual in Fiction and Reality by Duncan Barford - Goodreads
The Baptist's Head Compendium: Magick as a Path to Enlightenment by Alan Chapman, Duncan Barford - Aeon Books
Occult Experiments in the Home podcast - Apple Podcasts
HIEROPHANY podcast - Apple Podcasts
Worp FM podcast - Apple Podcasts
The Obscure Occult Book Report (TOOBR) podcast

Hine’s Intro

Queen - I'm Going Slightly Mad (Official Video) - YouTube

Vayse to Face with Duncan

Hellier (TV Series) - Wikipedia
Hellier Seasons 1 & 2 - Planet Weird
Pennyroyal podcast
VYS0007 | Too Much to Dream Last Night (includes Hine’s Pan experience)
Some Other Sphere podcast
What is psychodynamic therapy? - BACP
Psychoanalysis and the Gothic - University of Pennsylvania
The Interpretation of Dreams by Sigmund Freud - Goodreads
On James Hillman's 'The Dream and the Underworld' - Weird Studies podcast
Chaos magic - Wikipedia
Illuminates of Thanateros (IOT) - Wikipedia
IOT British Isles - website
IOT North America - website
Individuation - Wikipedia
Self-actualisation - Wikipedia
Flow (psychology) - Wikipedia
Projective identification - Wikipedia
Transference - Psychology Today
Six Ways: Approaches & Entries for Practical Magic by Aidan Wachter - Goodreads
Weaving Fate: Hypersigils, Changing the Past, & Telling True Lies by Aidan Wachter - Goodreads
Transpersonal therapy - Psychology Today
What Magic Is This? podcast - Mental Health and the Magician
Diagnosis: are we medicalising human experience? - BHMA
Finding God in a seizure: the link between temporal lobe epilepsy and mysticism - ABC
VYS0033 | Battle-Owl vs Sci-fi Centipede - Vayse to Face with Loren Fetterman
The Demon Shax - Occult World
LBRP: The Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram and Notes About Demons - Exemplore
S N Goenka - Wikipedia
Kundalini yoga - Wikipedia
Federico Campagna - website
Technic and Magic: The Reconstruction of Reality by Federico Campagna - Goodreads
OEITH #101 Meditation and Trauma
The Integrated Website of Daniel M. Ingram
The Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium - website
Understanding The Dark Night Of The Soul (+ How To Get Through It) - MindBodyGreen
Sigil - Wikipedia
Set and setting - Wikipedia
Guardian angel: Thelema - Wikipedia
Abyss (Thelema) - Wikipedia
Normalizing the Holy Guardian Angel: Moving from Taboo to Dialogue - Praemonstro
Andrew Cohen (spiritual teacher) - Wikipedia
Andrew Cohen - website
Great White Brotherhood - Wikipedia
The Great White Brotherhood - website
The Red Book: Liber Novus by C G Jung - Goodreads
Neoplatonism - Wikipedia
VALIS by Philip K. Dick - Goodreads

Duncan’s Recommendations

Monument Maker by David Keenan - Goodreads
England’s Hidden Reverse by David Keenan - Goodreads
Ultraculture Ep. 167: England's Hidden Reverse With David Keenan
This is Memorial Device by David Keenan - Goodreads
Xstabeth by David Keenan - Goodreads

Buckley’s Closing Question

Carol Vorderman on Twitter/X

Vayse online

Vayse website
Vayse on Twitter/X
Vayse on Instagram
Music From Vayse: Volume 1 by Polypores - Bandcamp
Music From Vayse: Volume 2 by Polypores - Bandcamp
Vayse on Ko-Fi
Vayse email: vayseinfo@gmail.com

Mental Health Links (UK) (taken from the wonderful mental health charity Mind's website)

Samaritans - talk about anything that is upsetting you - 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. You can call 116 123 (free from any phone). You can also call the Samaritans Welsh Language Line on 0808 164 0123 (7pm–11pm every day).

SANEline - If you're experiencing a mental health problem or supporting someone else, you can call SANEline on 0300 304 7000 (4.30pm–10.30pm every day).

National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK. Offers a supportive listening service to anyone with thoughts of suicide - 0800 689 5652 (6pm–3:30am every day).

Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM). You can call the CALM on 0800 58 58 58 (5pm–midnight every day) if you are struggling and need to talk.

Shout. If you would prefer not to talk but want some mental health support, you could text SHOUT to 85258. Shout offers a confidential 24/7 text service providing support if you are in crisis and need immediate help.

The Mix. If you're under 25, you can call The Mix on 0808 808 4994 (3pm–midnight every day), request support by email using this form on The Mix website or use their crisis text messenger service.

Papyrus HOPELINEUK. If you're under 35 and struggling with suicidal feelings, or concerned about a young person who might be struggling, you can call Papyrus HOPELINEUK on 0800 068 4141 (weekdays 10am-10pm, weekends 2pm-10pm and bank holidays 2pm–10pm), email pat@papyrus-uk.org or text 07786 209 697.

Nightline. If you're a student, you can look on the Nightline website to see if your university or college offers a night-time listening service. Nightline phone operators are all students too.

Switchboard. If you identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender, you can call Switchboard on 0300 330 0630 (10am–10pm every day), email chris@switchboard.lgbt or use their webchat service. Phone operators all identify as LGBT+.

C.A.L.L. If you live in Wales, you can call the Community Advice and Listening Line (C.A.L.L.) on 0800 132 737 (open 24/7) or you can text 'help' followed by a question to 81066.

Special Guest: Duncan Barford.

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