In the second part of this two part interview with legendary Occultist and UFOlogist Dr Allen H Greenfield, Hine and Buckley go deep asking questions about: the Black Lodge, the Babalon Working, Hellier and the collapse of Western Civilisation. Allen also recounts unnerving tales of the UFOlogists who died too young and the dangers of research in the field... so, don't try this at home... Recorded 13 November 2022

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Dr Allen H Greenfield's books
The Complete Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts
The Grail Within: The True Quest for the Holy Grail and the Western Sex Magick Tradition
Saucers and Saucerers
The Roots of Modern Magic: Glimpses of the Authentic Tradition from 1700 - 2000

Dr Allen H Greenfield links

Twitter - Stay on top of all things Allen Greenfield
Secret Cipher Calculator (Liber AL vel Legis) - Grab a copy of the book (above), try some Cipher calculations of your own and then get out into the field!
Hellier - I don't believe that anyone has found their way here without watching it, but if you haven't - do that now!

Other links

The Episode of his podcast, the Paranoia Podcast, in which Olav Philips suggests that Terry R Wriste could possibly be an Ascended Master

Local newspaper article looking back on the Todmorden UFO and the mysterious death of Zigmund Adamski

The Canadian case – “The Falcon Lake Incident”

The Brazilian Case - The Lead Masks Case

Twin Peaks - Hawk explains the Black Lodge to Cooper

Article about the death of Ron Bonds

Death of Jim Keith

Frank Edwards' Wikipedia entry

Flying Saucers - Serious Business by Franks Edwards

Article about how John Adams and Thomas Jefferson died on the same day

Penny Royal - essential podcast listening

The Re-birth of Pan by Jim Brandon - this book is referenced in both Hellier and Penny Royal BUT if you've watched Hellier and Penny Royal, you'll know that Jim Brandon is the nom de plume of William Grimstead - white supremacist, Holocaust denier, associate of David Duke and all-round piece of shit. Greg Newkirk puts it best himself.

Something in the Dirt - Excellent new film by Benson and Moorhead - if you enjoyed Hellier, there's a very good chance you'll enjoy this too.

Lullaby - Upcoming horror movie written by Allen's son, Alex Greenfield.

A Dark Song - Horror movie about the Abramelin ritual.

See Richard Gere as John Keel in The Mothman Prophecies

Special Guest: Allen H Greenfield.

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Occultist or UFOlogist? Teacher or trickster? Keeper of secrets or straight-talking raconteur? Dr Allen H Greenfield is all of these things and infinitely (or a finite very, very large number) more. In this first part of a two-part interview Allen talks about how he first uncovered the potential of the secret cipher, sets the record straight on Gray Barker and Jim Moseley, talks about the plasticity of reality and tells the story of how a single small hoax has the potential to instigate legitimate phenomena on a large scale... recorded 13 November 2022

The sound quality on this episode isn't quite where we usually like it to be - this is just due to the technical challenges of talking to the other side of the world on a shoe-string budget. Apologies but stick with it - Allen is his usual brilliant self, and we go deep.

Dr Allen H Greenfield's books

The Complete Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts

The Grail Within: The True Quest for the Holy Grail and the Western Sex Magick Tradition
Saucers and Saucerers
The Roots of Modern Magic: Glimpses of the Authentic Tradition from 1700 - 2000

Dr Allen H Greenfield links

Twitter - Stay on top of all things Allen Greenfield
Secret Cipher Calculator (Liber AL vel Legis) - Grab a copy of the book (above), try some Cipher calculations of your own and then get out into the field!
Hellier - I don't believe that anyone has found their way here without watching it, but if you haven't - do that now!

Other links

The Anarchist Cookbook by William Powell - don't try this at home...

*The Absolute Elsewhere with an introduction by Andrew Stephens * - The transcriptions of the lost interviews between Kerry Thornely and Allen Greenfield were released as a limited run of 33 copies. Good luck finding one of those.

Olav Phillips on Twitter - Allen's publisher and friend

Communion by Whitley Strieber

Paradise Lost: West Memphis Three The documentary about Damien Echols and the West Memphis Three and their wrongful conviction for murder during the satanic panic of the 1980s/1990s

The X Files

Haunted Objects Podcast - The Newkirks' new podcast

Mind-reach: Scientists Look at Psychic Abilities (Studies in Consciousness) by Russell Targ and Harold E. Puthoff

The Wanaque Reservoir Flap - there was a cool photograph taken and this weird artwork from an eye witness (which we assume is from the same flap but let us know if you know differently)

Parallel Worlds: The Science of Alternative Universes and Our Future in the Cosmos by Michio Kaku

Jung on Synchronicity and the Paranormal by CG Jung

Ulysses by James Joyce

I Ching – The Wilhelm/Baynes 3rd edition

Special Guest: Allen H Greenfield.

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As if Magonia and the Mothman weren't weird enough, in the second part of this two-part exploration of the Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis, Hine and Buckley discuss the connections between the phenomena and ritual magic by way of Allen Greenfield's secret cipher, Aleister Crowley's book of the Law and Jack Parson and L. Ron Hubbard's Babalon Working, which may or may not have opened and left open a gateway to another world... Recorded 21 July 2022.

The Texts (We will be discussing these books in depth in VYS0004 and VYS0005)

Mothman Prophecies by John Keel
Passport to Magonia by Jacques Vallée
The Complete Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts by Allen Greenfield

Other References

Penny Royal
Allen Greenfield appearance on Consensus Unreality podcast
Allen Greenfield appearance on The Farm podcast
Allen Greenfield on Twitter - Worth following, he posts a lot of links to weird news stories and his comments are hilarious
Yeezus by Kanye West – Not going to post a link because he can get litigious and we don't need that kind of heat. A truly awesome album and unlike anything else, he was definitely channelling something…
What Magic is This? - "Aleister Crowley – The Myth and the New Aeon with Richard T. Cole"
The Book of the Law by Aleister Crowley
Liber el Vel Bogus by Richard T Cole
Spirit Box – #11 Marco Visconti
The Philip Experiment - 1972 parapsychology experiment to summon a spirit whose history was entirely fictional
A drawing of Lam by Crowley this was the entity that contacted Crowley during the The Amalantrah Workings
Communion by Whitley Strieber
The English Qaballa - Wikipedia link (I know, but we're very busy and so are you...)
The Magickal Language of the Book of the Law: An English Qaballa Primer by Cath Thompson
The Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts online calculator - give it a go for yourself
Hellier – if we haven't said this enough yet just watch this show
Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons by John Carter (check)
Strange Angel – a TV series and book about Jack Parsons
Stuff They Don't Want You To Know - Sex Cults and Rocket Science: The Jack Parsons Story
The Secret History of Twin Peaks by Mark Frost
VALIS by Philip K Dick
The Eighth Tower by John Keel
I Am Alive and You Are Dead: A Journey into the Mind of Philip K. Dick by Emmanuel Carrère
Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson
Aleister Crowley and the Aeon of Horus by Paul Weston
X-Files – Jose Chung’s From Outer Space (Season 3, Episode 20)
Time Loops by Eric Wargo
Liminal Dreaming: Exploring Consciousness at the Edges of Sleep by Jennifer Dumpert
Oneohtrix Point Never
Agnes Obel
Field lines Cartographer – Dreamtides
Stuff They Don’t Want You to Know
What Magic is This?
Spirit Box

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